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Question:Can boer goats eat granola meal as an additive?
Answer:Not answered yet.
 
Question:How much do you feed weathers and how many times a day do they get fed?
Answer:We feed 2 times per day. Full feed is about 4% of their bodyweight. I recommend feeding 3 times a day if you can.
 
Question:What is the best way to fill out a goats loin?
Answer:Proper nutrition and exercise. Extra fat will add some width and smoothness. I add fat to our goat feed daily. I use Honor show chow power fuel. See the honor show chow website for details on feeding goats.
 
Question:This is my first year showing goats is it different showing meat goats to milk goats cause everything i find is milk goat is it different in different states or is it the same is there a certain pattern or way thanks.
Answer:Definitely different. Go to utube and search showing market goats versus milk goats.
 
Question:Is there a way to get your goat fuller in his ribs, and to stop them from sinking in around the rear
Answer:Feed and water
 
Question:Is there any specifics on how to keep more control when walking?
Answer:Repitition
 
Question:I came across purina honor show chow goat feed is this a good product?
Answer:yes- what I feed and recommend
 
Question:How do you shear/fit a doe for breeding class?(boer)
Answer:You clip them like cattle. Takes a lot of practice and expertise. I would ask for help from someone that knows how to do it.
 
Question:my show doe she keeps turning her head to the side when i walk her but when i stack her it\'s no problem i need to know how to correct it
Answer:More control of her head when walking.
 
Question:How do I add more shape to the top line?
Answer:Proper nutrition and exercise.
 
Question:Drenching goats? I\'ve had some great reviews on gold dust... however, I\'m not sure how you do it. If anyone uses it can you give me some advice? Or if you use a different drench. I know a lot of people have homemade drenches. Thanks!
Answer:I have never used gold dust. We are going to try top secret this next week for our goat. There website is under final secret. Gold dust had drenching directions on their website. In previous years, we have used show shake and several home made drenches. Show shake worked well for me in the past. As with all additives, try it several weeks ahead of time to make sure it does not make them sick. After that, you can start with the manufacturers recommendation on how to use it and adjust to fit your animals needs.
 
Question:what do mixing wheat germ oil with your feed do for a goat?
Answer:Here is a paragraph I found on line "In addition to providing energy, wheat germ oil is believed to provide beneficial advantages due to availability of octacosanol - These advantages may include better blood oxygen carrying capacity leading to more oxygenation of body tissues, better endurance, more stamina, and better muscle condition and strength.efits of feeding wheat germ oil to animals."
 
Question:Are there any market shows that allow doelings to be shown against wethers? I know other species allow this, but have never seen it at a goat show in our area.
Answer:Most Texas county shows allow doe kids to be shown in the market classes against the wethers. The majors do not. Just need to check on the rules for each show.
 
Question:what kind of collar should i show my show doe?
Answer:I like to use a thin chain. Simply search "show goat chains" to see pics.
 
Question:I exercise my goats properly and add powerfuel to their diet and they don\'t seem to gain muscle. What else can I do??
Answer:Powerfuel is a fat additive. For muscle, you typically add a protein supplement (HSC top dress) and exercise. Remember, your goat only has his potential for muscle based on the genetics of the parents.
 
Question:what is better to feed champion drive or fitter 35
Answer:They are close in analysis. CD- 32-5-6 and Fitter is 35-2.5-7 Both will add muscle by increasing protein if feed, both will burn fat.
 
Question:i need to put at lest 5lb. on a market goat in one week. HELP!!
Answer:The fastest gain is through water. You can drench with a quart to gain 2 lbs. Other than that, goats are not fast gainers. Typical gain is about 1/3 of a pound a day or about 10 lbs per month. Full feed and full water.
 
Question:We have a wether that needs a top on him. Is there any supplment out there that is the best to put one on.
Answer:Muscle comes from genetics, exercise and proper diet. If you are exercising and feeding properly and he still does not have very much top, probably just not going to get it. If he has the genetic potential for a thick top, then you need to create his genetic potential with proper feed management and exercise. There are not additives that can create a miracle top. When I want to increase muscle, I usually will add a protein supplement, but this takes time and is not going to create any more muscle than the goat had the potential to build.
 
Question:Will feeding my show goats high octane help them fill out more? Do you prefer high octane?
Answer:There are two High Octane products. Powerfuel and Top dress. Powerfuel is a fat additive and Top dress is a protein additive. You can search Honor Show Chows website for goat feeding strategies to see how they recommend you feed it. We use the Powerfuel.
 
Question:Dis budding your show goat... Is it personal preference?
Answer:Not really. Most disbud show wethers and leave the horns on does. It is easier to work the does later on if they have horns and if in the pasture, they need them for protection. Billy's are usually left with their horns as well.
 
Question:I had the question about my goat losing the weight fast, my goat is going show at the PA farmsHOW JANUARY 9th. The cutoff weight is 120 and that\'s what my goat weighs today. What can I do?
Answer:You need to minimize feed to stop gain. Feed 1 1/2% of his body weight in feed ( .015 x 100 = 1.5 lbs per day) and exercise. The day before you weigh in for the show, you can cut him off feed and water for 24 hours to lose between 3-5%. As soon as you weigh in, feed 1/4 lb of feed and 8 ounces of water. Continue to feed and water this amount every two hours for at least 3 feedings.
 
Question:what can i do to make my show weather lose 10 -12 lbs.
Answer:The fastest way to take off weight is water. You can take the goat off of feed and water for 24 hours. After, you can limit water to 2% of their body weight- feed 1% of bodyweight. That means if they weigh 100 lbs x .02= 2 lbs per day of water. Spread it out over the day. 8 ounces each time. I do not know what the goat weighs, but 10 lbs is a lot to take off fast. The most I would pull over a short period of time is about 5% of their body weight.
 
Question:What kind of exercise do goats need to build muscle?
Answer:Any is good. I always tell people to think about building an athlete. Set up and exercise program with proper nutrition and get started. It does not happen over night. Takes weeks- months.
 
Question:When do you need to drench a goat and what do yo drench them with? I noticed several people drenching there goats at the show.
Answer:A drench is a liquid meal substitution. Instead of feeding the feed, they are trying to reduce the size of the rumen by taking them off of feed and using a liquid source of food. Some drenches are vitamins and electrolytes. Used to replenish these nutrients when you limit feed or cause stress. People that use drenches usually start the goats on a drench 3-4 days prior to the show and continue through the show. Make sure that if you are going to try and use a drench, design a feeding schedule weeks before the show and try it out on a weekend to make sure you get the results that you seek.
 
Question:My goat looks as if he hasn\'t filled into his skeleton like he needs more around the shoulders. When he walks you can see his shoulder blades a lot but he already weighs a lot. What feed or supplement should we use to help him fill out?
Answer:Higher protein and exercise. Remember- an animal only has the potential to develop muscle based on his genetics. I would increase the feed to 16-18% protein and develop an exercise program. I like Honor show chow top dress for a protein supplement. Visit the Honor show chow website for feeding strategies for goats needing more muscle.
 
Question:We showed 2 goats this past weekend. Both were about middle of their class. Judge said one was great in shoulder while it needed more in the back end, the other goat had good back end but needed more in the shoulder. Together they make a nice goat! We have access to both a track and a treadmill. How do we best exercise each goat to build on their respective issues. Thanks.
Answer:Trial and error. I like to get them a little fat prior to starting the exercise program. If not, they will burn off the fat needed for the smooth appearance in the ring. I would start one or the other methods- 3 days per week. Keep weighing once a week to make sure they are not losing weight and increase the feed- both fat content and protein. You are trying to create an athlete. Do the same thing that you would for yourself.
 
Question:My show goat needs to put on some pounds so I need a 12-14% protein and 5-6% fat feed from a respected feed company. Any ideas?
Answer:I like Honor show chow impulse.
 
Question:I have a goat that is a chronic bloater. Do you have a recommendation for a feed supplement I can give it?
Answer:I keep "therabloat" in the barn to treat when one bloats. As far as a daily treatment, I would check with your vet.
 
Question:what is the best feed for my Beor show buck ? 45 days before showing . I want him just as wide and big as I can get him. What\'s the best feed ? Or mixture of feed ?
Answer:I use Honor Show Chow Impluse
 
Question:which is one of the best show feeds?
Answer:I feed Honor Show Chow impulse.
 
Question:at the show this weekend I noticed people spraying the skin tightening product like CHILL on the goats mouth and nose area? I\'ve seen people use it to try to get the goat to keep his tail up but I cant imagine any reason someone would spray it on their face? Do you know what they were trying to achieve?
Answer:We spray our goat and lamb immediately after they get out of the show ring with a mixture of chlorhexidine and water to prevent ring worm and goat itch. Not sure what they were doing, but this might be the reason.
 
Question:I have a show wether that absolutely refuses to eat pellets. We\'ve tried honors impulse pellets and textured goat feeds. He just eats around the pellets and wastes about half of the food. Ant suggestions to make the pellets more palatable to him?
Answer:Not really. They are picky eaters. I would try feeding straight pelleted feed with the idea that when he gets hungry enough, he will start eating. May want to try another brand of feed as well.
 
Question:How would you treat sore mouth in the corners of a wether\'s mouth? The Ag advisor recommended bleach on the growths but I am concerned about the goat ingesting something toxic.
Answer:I usually use iodine. It is toxic as well, but a small amount applied to the infected area should not be toxic. Check with your vet.
 
Question:Yes it looks like it. He bloats only when we work him. About 10 minutes after he is fine
Answer:Might be caused by the stress or working. Might try feeding after the workout.
 
Question:One of my son\'s goats puffs up everytime we work with him. What can we do to get him to quit. We have dewormed and given CDT shots. He is fine in the pen, but when he is walking or on the stand he puffs. Any advice would be appreciated
Answer:Not sure what you mean. Does his rumen increase in size? Deworming or CDT would not be a factor here. I am not sure what is going on. I would seek advice from a vet.
 
Question:Just wanted to say thanks this is our first year and we have put up several questions that you have answered for us and we really appreciate your help. Thank you so much!
Answer:no problem- hope you reached your goals
 
Question:How do you teach a goat to brace? And when teaching to brace is it ok to lift there front feet off the ground that seems to be the only way to get any push out of our goat, but it seems like the better showmen are not doing that at least in the ring. Also how do you train them to keep their feet still we have put a lot of time in to my daughters goat but he still wants to move. She is young and this is her first goat so im not sure if the goat just knows he can get away with moving and doing what he wants?
Answer:I feel your pain, I have an 8 year old that I am working with. You have to train the child and the goat. We have been working 5-6 days a week with our goat for 3 months and still have issues with him. He wants to walk to fast, pull back, move around, etc. Very frustrating. We hang him from a bungee cord and a halter for 10 minutes, then walk with the chain. We stop about every 50 feet and drive him when we are headed back to the barn. We then go through a "show" procedure where we walk in a circle and set up on rear view and profile- about 5 rounds. Last, we put him on a trimming table and brush him. This takes about 35-45 minutes. We have to lift our goat to make him drive at times as well. We tried driving him off of the table, but he pushes her off. So all I can tell you is repetition. They also seem to show better when they get out of their environment at the show. The first show, our goat showed great, the second time, he wanted to pull back. Very frustrating. Just keep on working and hopefully, he will get it down.
 
Question:I want my goats to gain more weight. I feed them half of MoorMan\'s Show Tex and half of Ware Millian Goat Developer.Is there something else?
Answer:Just make sure they are getting all they want. We supplement a handful of alfalfa hay each feeding as well. I am not familiar with your feed. Make sure it is formulated for show goats and has all of the needed nutrients.
 
Question:What is the best way to run/exercise a show goat?
Answer:Any way that fits for you. Some have a track and dog, treadmill, walker, Does not matter- just need a program that will work for you
 
Question:We have a Boer goat that has decided to go off feed. He just nibbles a bit and then leaves it. We have tried everything - changing feed, B supplements, Dyne and we still can\'t get him to finish out because he just won\'t eat. Any suggestions?
Answer:sounds like you covered the basis. Just make sure you offer clean feed daily. I would have suggested everything that you mentioned. Might want to stay away from the genetics next year.
 
Question:Is it bad to give boar goats alfalfa daily ?
Answer:no- we give our goat alfalfa hay at each feeding- a handful
 
Question:Hello, my name is Tyler and im involved in my schools FFA program. A few days ago I gave my goat a shot that the people gave me. I did it in the loose skin on his neck as directed. Today, I noticed a long small lump near the region of the shot. Im not sure what it is or how to treat it. Im not sure if it is related to the injection. The goat has been eating and drinking normally. Thanks
Answer:I am not sure what meds you gave. Sounds like you tried to give a subcutaneous injection- under the skin. Sometimes you get into the layer of the skin instead of under the skin. If so, a knot will form. It may go away by itself or it may become a cyst. I would let water run on it and rub it daily. If it does not go away- take him to your vet.
 
Question:what is the judge referring to when he talks about how fresh a goat feels or doesn\'t have the freshness?
Answer:Freshness is fat cover. If he is fresh- he has a layer of fat under the skin.
 
Question:hi I have boer show goats and im needing a feeding program I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions?
Answer:GO to honor show chow website - goat feeding strategies
 
Question:what is bloom?
Answer:Most judges refer to bloom as fat. A goat that has bloom has some fat under the skin over the top and ribs.
 
Question:We recently had a goat get very ill with Thiamine deficiency. He is about 5.5 months old and was about 70 pounds. I an matter of a couple of days he lost about 10 pounds. We have till December before we will show again. We are wondering if there are any supplements we can give him to help him get back where he was. The last week we have been giving him as much feed and water as he wants as well as a handful of alfalfa each day. His current feed is Jacoby Red Tag. He has gained a little, but it is slow going.
Answer:You can purchase Thiamine (VIt B-1) from a vet and give weekly injections. I would ask the vet for advise on how much to give. I would also check your feed. A high quality show goat feed should be complete and have all of the nutrients required. Your feed my lack all of the vitamins needed.
 
Question:When we first got our goat we halter broke hima nd started to chain break him. Now we have t drag him out of his pen and he wont walk with a halter? Do we need to start back at step one to halter break or do you have any other suggestions?
Answer:Goats can be pretty darn hard headed. The one we have is the same way. We have to drag him out of the pen. We start each afternoon by Feeding first. Then we halter the goat and tie him to a bungee cord hanging from the roof in the center of his pen. He is required to stand still for about 10 minutes. From there, we walk him with a chain away from the barn and back, then we go through a routine similar to one that we would experience at a show- we only use the halter when we tie him to the bungee. We end the workout by putting him on the trimming table and apply skin conditioner and brush his hair. I have found that when we skip a day or two, he reverts backwards and forgets what he learned to some degree. With goats and the kids showing them it comes down to constant repetition.
 
Question:When is it time to feed the goat supplement
Answer:Not sure which goat supplement that you are referring to. I use Honor Show Chow supplements. Go to their website and look up goat feeding strategies.
 
Question:at the show this weekend I heard a lot of talk about giving the goats orange peels and orange juice two hours before they go in the ring to make them spread out over there top and increase the way they handle is there any science behind this or is it another miracle show fad?
Answer:Never heard this one, but way out there in terms of making any sense. Some of the things you hear in the barn are interesting. Our formula for success- great genetics, great feed, super management and perfect showmanship
 
Question:I purchased a Harbour goat this week end with sire as Game Changer. I noticed that as my goat walk his shoulder blades on his back stick out a lot, they are very defined. Everything I read says this is not good. Can you tell me if that is true, will I have a hard time with showing him because of it or is this fixable?
Answer:I would have to look at the goat to get an idea of what you are talking about. If you are concerned, take him back to the breeder and discuss the issue.
 
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